Comments on: Homemade 100% cheap ethanol for running gasoline engines http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/homemade-ethanol-for-running-not-anymore-gasoline-engines/ Alternative Energy Solutions Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:22:43 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: qwer http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/homemade-ethanol-for-running-not-anymore-gasoline-engines/#comment-2759 qwer Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:37:18 +0000 http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-2759 The idea is good,but how to produce ethanol from sugar is not told. The idea is good,but how to produce ethanol
from sugar is not told.

]]> By: Michael http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/homemade-ethanol-for-running-not-anymore-gasoline-engines/#comment-2758 Michael Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:21:50 +0000 http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-2758 It is an interesting concept, and considering that sugar is so plentiful that we have price supports, it may be that ethanol would be cheaper than we think, since using the excess sugar being produced in the world would allow us to remove the artificial price supports. Could creating another market for excess sugar actually cause food prices to decline? Another consideration is that it is apparently a fallacy that using corn to produce ethanol would cause food prices to rise because it would take away corn needed for animal feed. It turns out that the corn can be used to produce ethanol, and the resulting by-product is actually a higher quality animal feed than the corn. Ethanol production uses the starch in the corn, but leaves the protein, which is what the animals actually process for nutrition. So corn can be both ethanol and animal feed. It is an interesting concept, and considering that sugar is so plentiful that we have price supports, it may be that ethanol would be cheaper than we think, since using the excess sugar being produced in the world would allow us to remove the artificial price supports. Could creating another market for excess sugar actually cause food prices to decline? Another consideration is that it is apparently a fallacy that using corn to produce ethanol would cause food prices to rise because it would take away corn needed for animal feed. It turns out that the corn can be used to produce ethanol, and the resulting by-product is actually a higher quality animal feed than the corn. Ethanol production uses the starch in the corn, but leaves the protein, which is what the animals actually process for nutrition. So corn can be both ethanol and animal feed.

]]> By: German Armando Rios http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/homemade-ethanol-for-running-not-anymore-gasoline-engines/#comment-2745 German Armando Rios Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:47:47 +0000 http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-2745 Well you have some point there, but also the current infrastructure use the same logistics. Isn't the gasoline delivered in diesel trucks?, like you try to point out, and you need to also drive to some place to get it. At least with this method you reduce the energy required to go an fill your tank. Regarding the electric power, with the information provided on the systems website, the computer is indeed a very low power embedded system, that does not consume much power. From what I made out from the information provided, the machine need 150Watts that most all is for the heating and pumps, something that can be very easily provided with solar panels if you are concerned where the electricity comes from. The biggest concern right now is where to get the sugars cheaply. Sugar these days is very expensive. I wonder if you can input into the fermenter any type of fruit juice that is abundant in particular region or season (example: orange juice, or some tropical fruits that are high on sugar content) and convert the sugars in the juice to ethanol. If that is possible, maybe it would be an option for regions where sugar is not as easily available or cheap to obtain even low grade. But nice the discussion you just jump started. Well you have some point there, but also the current infrastructure use the same logistics. Isn’t the gasoline delivered in diesel trucks?, like you try to point out, and you need to also drive to some place to get it. At least with this method you reduce the energy required to go an fill your tank.

Regarding the electric power, with the information provided on the systems website, the computer is indeed a very low power embedded system, that does not consume much power. From what I made out from the information provided, the machine need 150Watts that most all is for the heating and pumps, something that can be very easily provided with solar panels if you are concerned where the electricity comes from.

The biggest concern right now is where to get the sugars cheaply. Sugar these days is very expensive. I wonder if you can input into the fermenter any type of fruit juice that is abundant in particular region or season (example: orange juice, or some tropical fruits that are high on sugar content) and convert the sugars in the juice to ethanol. If that is possible, maybe it would be an option for regions where sugar is not as easily available or cheap to obtain even low grade.

But nice the discussion you just jump started.

]]> By: AJ http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/homemade-ethanol-for-running-not-anymore-gasoline-engines/#comment-2744 AJ Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:03:51 +0000 http://onesunpower.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-2744 How is the product and byproduct shipped to and from your house? Probably by diesel trucks at some point down the chain, which seems to make it very dependent on the product it's trying to free people from. In addition, the electricity consumed (probably from coal-fired power plants), would seem to negate additional cost savings and environmental value. How is the product and byproduct shipped to and from your house? Probably by diesel trucks at some point down the chain, which seems to make it very dependent on the product it’s trying to free people from. In addition, the electricity consumed (probably from coal-fired power plants), would seem to negate additional cost savings and environmental value.

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